Bugatti Veyron EB 16.4

[dave]

Does Rob now own a Bugatti Veyron????

if so i cant wait to see the first shoot he does with it

[Longhornbill]

Originally Posted by dave

Does Rob now own a Bugatti Veyron????

if so i cant wait to see the first shoot he does with it

Anyone see the 1937 Bugatti (one of 17) that is going to be auctioned in the U.K. Expected to go for 3,000,000 #'s. No. Not $$. #s!
All original. Found in a garage and not run sine 1960.
Wow!

[T-bone Thomas]

Originally Posted by dave

Does Rob now own a Bugatti Veyron????

if so i cant wait to see the first shoot he does with it

Yes, Rob owns a Bugatti Veyron now (silver/grey) but I'm afraid he won't use it for a shoot since Bugatti doesn't like that kind of "promotion". Same as Mercedes Benz, sigh

[Geezer]

Originally Posted by T-bone Thomas

Yes, Rob owns a Bugatti Veyron now (silver/grey) but I'm afraid he won't use it for a shoot since Bugatti doesn't like that kind of "promotion". Same as Mercedes Benz, sigh

WHAT????? A person can't even take photos of their own car? Stupid! How can a car company prevent anyone for taking photos regardless of the "material?"

[ugo]

Originally Posted by T-bone Thomas

Yes, Rob owns a Bugatti Veyron now (silver/grey) but I'm afraid he won't use it for a shoot since Bugatti doesn't like that kind of "promotion". Same as Mercedes Benz, sigh

Im agree with you Friend T-bone.
That car Bugatti Veyron is important from a fabulous beauty and from the stupendous technological potentiality.

[T-bone Thomas]

Originally Posted by Geezer

WHAT????? A person can't even take photos of their own car? Stupid! How can a car company prevent anyone for taking photos regardless of the "material?"

Of course you can take pictures of your own car. But buying a car doesn't automatically mean you're buying the rights to use it in commercial photography. And FTV is commercial photography.
No car company can prevent you from taking pictures of their cars and using them for your purposes but when they get aware of it (for example because of a huge spam email with Lia19/Mercedes SLR-pictures which was passed around) they can send you a c&d (cease and desist order) to stop you from publishing this material which happened to FTV as far as I know. I know that's stupid but its a fact.

Well, I have saved these Lia19/Mercedes SLR-pictures and as a little tease for Mercedes here's one of them:

[tigger]

Originally Posted by longhornbill

anyone see the 1937 bugatti (one of 17) that is going to be auctioned in the u.k. Expected to go for 3,000,000 #'s. No. Not $$. #s!
All original. Found in a garage and not run sine 1960.
Wow!

i saw that on the news, bet that is going to fetch a pritty penny.

[mart]

Originally Posted by T-bone Thomas

Of course you can take pictures of your own car. But buying a car doesn't automatically mean you're buying the rights to use it in commercial photography. And FTV is commercial photography.
No car company can prevent you from taking pictures of their cars and using them for your purposes but when they get aware of it (for example because of a huge spam email with Lia19/Mercedes SLR-pictures which was passed around) they can send you a c&d (cease and desist order) to stop you from publishing this material which happened to FTV as far as I know. I know that's stupid but its a fact.

Well, I have saved these Lia19/Mercedes SLR-pictures and as a little tease for Mercedes here's one of them:

Surely it can only be good for the car company!. I mean isn't it good for advertising and it's free?.

[dave]

so where do you stand when putting vids on you tube or is that something different, i belive Robs Bugatti is on you tube

[danielle_ftv]

Originally Posted by dave

so where do you stand when putting vids on you tube or is that something different, i belive Robs Bugatti is on you tube

It is...and there is NOTHING they can do about it. Personally, I've tried to talk Rob into letting me pose with the Bugatti. Not sure if he will let me though. And honestly, it's not because of legal reasons, but because of personal reasons that he doesn't want the girls to pose with the Bugatti. But I'm determined to pose with it.

[grande351]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

It is...and there is NOTHING they can do about it. Personally, I've tried to talk Rob into letting me pose with the Bugatti. Not sure if he will let me though. And honestly, it's not because of legal reasons, but because of personal reasons that he doesn't want the girls to pose with the Bugatti. But I'm determined to pose with it.

Rob told me the same thing, it's his choice not to use it for photoshoots, not some dictate from Bugatti. If you pay over $1,000,000 for a car, you should be able to use it however you wish, in my opinion. I hope you can change his mind, that sure would be a hot photoshoot! . Has he let you drive it yet?

I also have the links to the YouTube videos, but I don't know if it's ok to post them or not.

[CK1]

but by the same token, if a model leans back, loose her balance and tries to catch herself by grabing a handle and breaks it off there goes $3,526.85 without tax and labor! but seriously, at least post pictures of the car. even without a model. it would just be cool to see. of course, with a nude model it would be better.

[Max]

I knew that Mercedes Benz sucked, primarily because they make bad cars, but this is antother reason that they suck, as well as Bugatti. Both of these brands are just a name, people don't really buy these cars because they are good cars, but because they have a prestigious name. Honda is a very unprestigious name, however, they make some of the best cars, and an excellent sports car that is very light.

[danielle_ftv]

Originally Posted by grande351

Has he let you drive it yet?

I also have the links to the YouTube videos, but I don't know if it's ok to post them or not.

What do they say....lmaorotf (laughing my butt off rolling on the floor?) Yeah right...me drive the Bugatti. I'm lucky if I even get to sit in the drivers seat. I don't think he would let anyone drive that car. Though I've gotten to drive the GTR, the SLR McLaren, and the Lambo that he crashed.

And yes you can post those if you want.

[grande351]

Since Ms D gave me the OK, here are the YouTube links for video of Rob's Veyron. Very cool car!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEpxpr5e8VU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj8QS-BNVKk

[FTVGirls_Rob]

Yes, its a personal decision not to have any porn-related shoots next to the bugatti.

here's some pics:

[FTVGirls_Rob]

[grande351]

Great pics! Thanks for posting them. The action shots are especially good, like something you'd see in Car and Driver or Automobile magazines.

That sure is an awesome car. I didn't know that the wing could be raised while sitting still, I thought it only deployed at speed. At least that's what they said on Top Gear.

[ugo]

Originally Posted by danielle_ftv

What do they say....lmaorotf (laughing my butt off rolling on the floor?) Yeah right...me drive the Bugatti. I'm lucky if I even get to sit in the drivers seat. I don't think he would let anyone drive that car. Though I've gotten to drive the GTR, the SLR McLaren, and the Lambo that he crashed.

And yes you can post those if you want.

Hey, DANIELLE,
I have a project to buy the Bugatti Veyron. And of color blue metal.

[ugo]

Im agree much with ROB !!!

Rob, my question: is it yours the Bugatti Veyron of the pics that have you posted? It's indeed spectacular!!!!

[CK1]

um, the car deserves it own site! its very photogenic.

[tigger]

Originally Posted by Max

I knew that Mercedes Benz sucked, primarily because they make bad cars, but this is antother reason that they suck, as well as Bugatti. Both of these brands are just a name, people don't really buy these cars because they are good cars, but because they have a prestigious name. Honda is a very unprestigious name, however, they make some of the best cars, and an excellent sports car that is very light.

Why dont you get a Huffy its light great on gas and you can shift to your hearts content.

[Max]

Originally Posted by tigger

Why dont you get a Huffy its light great on gas and you can shift to your hearts content.

It's not the fuel economy that really bothers me, but it's the transmission as well as the weight. It doesn't look like a really heavy car but it apparently is. When you suggested a huffy I have a Gary Fisher anyways.

[FTVfanatic]

Originally Posted by grande351

That sure is an awesome car. I didn't know that the wing could be raised while sitting still, I thought it only deployed at speed. At least that's what they said on Top Gear.

The car has three different modes: Standard, Handling and Top Speed mode. Not only does the driving mode affect the position of the rear wing, but in addition the ride height of the car and front diffuser flap position. The wing also functions as an air brake but only at speeds above 200 km/h.

The wing can be manually deployed (Handling mode) or it is automatically deployed at speeds above 220 km/h, as the Standard mode is automatically changed to Handling mode. Also, the wing is deployed if certain parameters are met during Top Speed mode. (By default the wing is in down position during Top Speed mode driving. Braking and steering over certain limits will cuase the change to Handling mode, and thus deploy the rear wing).

Hope I didn't make you bored.

[FTVfanatic]

Originally Posted by ugo

...I have a project to buy the Bugatti Veyron. And of color blue metal.

And that would be AutoArt Bugatti Veyron at 1:18 Scale, right?

[cwp]

I've got that last picture Rob posted as my desktop background now. Such a fantastic car Rob!

I adored this car the first time I saw it on Top Gear (UK TV show - great by the way). They have a race against a plane!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pVikSeV7s

[Longhornbill]

Originally Posted by FTVfanatic

The car has three different modes: Standard, Handling and Top Speed mode. Not only does the driving mode affect the position of the rear wing, but in addition the ride height of the car and front diffuser flap position. The wing also functions as an air brake but only at speeds above 200 km/h.

The wing can be manually deployed (Handling mode) or it is automatically deployed at speeds above 220 km/h, as the Standard mode is automatically changed to Handling mode. Also, the wing is deployed if certain parameters are met during Top Speed mode. (By default the wing is in down position during Top Speed mode driving. Braking and steering over certain limits will cuase the change to Handling mode, and thus deploy the rear wing).

Hope I didn't make you bored.

And for this technology you can thank Jim Hall, the legendery Chaparral Race car builder and driver. He lives in Midland, Texas and all of his cars, each one with an inovative component that was outlawed by various racing organizations because he created an "unfair advantage". The first inovation was an automatic transmission in a sports car that raced SCCA! Who ever heard of such a thing? Then came the variable wing. The downdraft car with snowmobile engines to literally suck it to the ground. His cars are on view in their own wing at the Permian Basin Petroleum Museum. (Indy outlawed his wing. As I recall, I do not believe the transmission was ever outlawed but everything else was. Keep in mind, his inovations began in the late 50's)

And I hope I did not bore you!

Enough of this! I'm going to view a Danielle video. There's plenty of inovation there.

[FTVfanatic]

Longhornbill, cars and girls are two topics that NEVER make me bored.

That was good info you provided. I didn't know about this guy Jimm Hall before!

[D Money $$$]

Originally Posted by FTVGirls_Rob

Yes, its a personal decision not to have any porn-related shoots next to the bugatti.

Lemme guess, you don't want it to overshadow the model

Originally Posted by Max

I knew that Mercedes Benz sucked, primarily because they make bad cars, but this is antother reason that they suck, as well as Bugatti. Both of these brands are just a name, people don't really buy these cars because they are good cars, but because they have a prestigious name. Honda is a very unprestigious name, however, they make some of the best cars, and an excellent sports car that is very light.

You seem to know a lot about cars, Max.

[mart]

Their great shots of your car Rob!. I'd love to do a photoshop of it with Lia or Danielle. But then i might get into trouble with Bugatti.

[mart]

Originally Posted by Max

I knew that Mercedes Benz sucked, primarily because they make bad cars, but this is antother reason that they suck, as well as Bugatti. Both of these brands are just a name, people don't really buy these cars because they are good cars, but because they have a prestigious name. Honda is a very unprestigious name, however, they make some of the best cars, and an excellent sports car that is very light.

Max how many sports cars have you owned or even driven on a test run? and are these comments based from experience or just hearsay?.

[dave]

Rob your Bugatti Veyron EB 16.4 is one serious bit of kit and the pictures of are awsome, i have also seen the youtude clip fantastic i hope there will be more clips of it

[Max]

Originally Posted by mart

Max how many sports cars have you owned or even driven on a test run? and are these comments based from experience or just hearsay?.

I am constantly reading several articles on cars. The McLaren F1 is a good sports car that is considered in the same league as this. That is a car that was an engineering breakthrough. It weighs half that of the Veyron, and can handle turns, unlike the Veyron. Going as fast as you can, and accelerating as fast as you can in a straight line is not the only thing that is important about cars in any type of car.

[laranger]

Originally Posted by mart

Max how many sports cars have you owned or even driven on a test run?.

Max, answer Mart's questions please.

[WhyYou]

Originally Posted by Max

I am constantly reading several articles on cars. The McLaren F1 is a good sports car that is considered in the same league as this. That is a car that was an engineering breakthrough. It weighs half that of the Veyron, and can handle turns, unlike the Veyron. Going as fast as you can, and accelerating as fast as you can in a straight line is not the only thing that is important about cars in any type of car.

Reading about cars and driving cars are two completely different things. You are reading someone else's opinion about how a car operates without having any knowledge or experience in the field. Hands on experience could possibly change your mind about some cars. If nothing else it would give you some knowledge base from which to make your opinions have more meaning. You talk like you absolutely know exactly what you're talking about but you have nothing to back up your words.

[ugo]

WhyYou it's right.

To read it is a thing (it is it creates total confusion). To drive is another (learning and understanding the merits and defects of the car).

[Jeffrey99]

Originally Posted by WhyYou

Reading about cars and driving cars are two completely different things. You are reading someone else's opinion about how a car operates without having any knowledge or experience in the field. Hands on experience could possibly change your mind about some cars. If nothing else it would give you some knowledge base from which to make your opinions have more meaning. You talk like you absolutely know exactly what you're talking about but you have nothing to back up your words.

Yeah but you could say that about anything: What it feels like to be on the moon, How good this celebrity is in bed, What's it's like at the Playboy mansion, What it's like to play NFL football, etc. Does reviews to anything have any bearing on whether you pay for that movie/site/etc?

Not everyone has millions of dollars to experience all those things. Some of us barley have money each month to pay our bills, not go test drive (or even be allowed to) some multi million dollar car. Some of us have to educate ourselves by reading respectable magazine and taking their word for it.

So are those of use that don't have the means to experience things first hand not allowed to have a opinion or comment on things?

As for which is actually right on the car? Don't know and frankly don't care. I'm not a car guy, to me it's nothing more then to get from point A to point B. Speed limits 55, so it doesn't matter if it'll do 200. Now show me a million dollar home with some fancy **** in it and I'll be impressed.

[ugo]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey99

Yeah but you could say that about anything: What it feels like to be on the moon, How good this celebrity is in bed, What's it's like at the Playboy mansion, What it's like to play NFL football, etc. Does reviews to anything have any bearing on whether you pay for that movie/site/etc?

Not everyone has millions of dollars to experience all those things. Some of us barley have money each month to pay our bills, not go test drive (or even be allowed to) some multi million dollar car. Some of us have to educate ourselves by reading respectable magazine and taking their word for it.

So are those of use that don't have the means to experience things first hand not allowed to have a opinion or comment on things?

As for which is actually right on the car? Don't know and frankly don't care. I'm not a car guy, to me it's nothing more then to get from point A to point B. Speed limits 55, so it doesn't matter if it'll do 200. Now show me a million dollar home with some fancy **** in it and I'll be impressed.

Clearly to read is to learn of as is made so many things. And they are made opinions and debates. And not all say the same thing. And confusion is created. And I think that it is better to go nearby to see from, and to make to explain you from those that have already used. It needs to always be careful to those however that thinks that everything perfect.

[WhyYou]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey99

Yeah but you could say that about anything: What it feels like to be on the moon, How good this celebrity is in bed, What's it's like at the Playboy mansion, What it's like to play NFL football, etc. Does reviews to anything have any bearing on whether you pay for that movie/site/etc?

Not everyone has millions of dollars to experience all those things. Some of us barley have money each month to pay our bills, not go test drive (or even be allowed to) some multi million dollar car. Some of us have to educate ourselves by reading respectable magazine and taking their word for it.

So are those of use that don't have the means to experience things first hand not allowed to have a opinion or comment on things?

As for which is actually right on the car? Don't know and frankly don't care. I'm not a car guy, to me it's nothing more then to get from point A to point B. Speed limits 55, so it doesn't matter if it'll do 200. Now show me a million dollar home with some fancy **** in it and I'll be impressed.

Jeffrey...the issue is not whether he can have his own opinion...it's how he presents his opinions. He doesn't say...I don't like that car...or...I have read that that car doesn't do well on corners...or...I think that that car isn't worth the money. Instead he says...that car sucks, anybody that drives that car is an idiot...or...automatic transmissions are for losers...or...dual gerbox transmission are just like automatics and automatics suck...or...don't buy that car, I know it's not worth the money. He states his opinion from a first hand viewpoint rather than from an observers viewpoint.

[mart]

WhyYou's right, Max has been slagging off most sports cars and i'd just like to know. If he talks from experience or from what he's read about the said car. Maybe i should drop my curiousity about about his opinions. I don't want this to turn into an arguement and i'll take his opinions with a pinch of salt.

[ugo]

Max has criticized of what I have said to buy the Bugatti. But I respect his opinion. But it has to learn to respect the others. I have many colleagues of my job that humiliate me really with that attitude.

[Jeffrey99]

Originally Posted by WhyYou

Jeffrey...the issue is not whether he can have his own opinion...it's how he presents his opinions. He doesn't say...I don't like that car...or...I have read that that car doesn't do well on corners...or...I think that that car isn't worth the money. Instead he says...that car sucks, anybody that drives that car is an idiot...or...automatic transmissions are for losers...or...dual gerbox transmission are just like automatics and automatics suck...or...don't buy that car, I know it's not worth the money. He states his opinion from a first hand viewpoint rather than from an observers viewpoint.

I can understand that to a point. But most people I know, whether talking politics or cars or sports, don't preference what they say with "I read" or "So and So said".

I mean, I've never been to the moon but if we are talking about it I'm not gonna preference my opinions with those statements.

I don't know Max at all and I don't know who's opinions are right. However if his opinions are so wrong, why not provide documentation stating otherwise. I mean, in all honesty, who should the people that can't drive that car believe, some people on a forum or people from a respectable car magazine? I'd be more inclined to believe a car magazine.

[ugo]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey99

I can understand that to a point. But most people I know, whether talking politics or cars or sports, don't preference what they say with "I read" or "So and So said".

I mean, I've never been to the moon but if we are talking about it I'm not gonna preference my opinions with those statements.

I don't know Max at all and I don't know who's opinions are right. However if his opinions are so wrong, why not provide documentation stating otherwise. I mean, in all honesty, who should the people that can't drive that car believe, some people on a forum or people from a respectable car magazine? I'd be more inclined to believe a car magazine.

That of Max is one opinion of his. As yours.
It speaks of the car. Generally who is good to understand things of motors it is a lot of rights. But not able "to command" on others if one wants the Bugatti (Ferrari, BMW, Lamborghini, etc).
I believe to have said my opinion. And in tuning of WhyYou and Mart. But no polemic to Max.

[Max]

I want to say that I respect everyone's opinion, I just have bad social skills, and this is one of the reasons that I also fear women so much, and if ever do I communicate with them. I'm sorry if everyone took this wrong, but I would prefer a McLaren F1 primarily becuase it seemed to be a better car in my opinion for a wide variety of reasons.

[laranger]

Originally Posted by Max

I want to say that I respect everyone's opinion, I just have bad social skills, and this is one of the reasons that I also fear women so much, and if ever do I communicate with them. I'm sorry if everyone took this wrong, but I would prefer a McLaren F1 primarily becuase it seemed to be a better car in my opinion for a wide variety of reasons.

Glad ya respect others opinions, but you should answer direct questions to you when they are asked, that way people don't have to go back to try and see what you are talking about.

[ugo]

Originally Posted by Max

I want to say that I respect everyone's opinion, I just have bad social skills, and this is one of the reasons that I also fear women so much, and if ever do I communicate with them. I'm sorry if everyone took this wrong, but I would prefer a McLaren F1 primarily becuase it seemed to be a better car in my opinion for a wide variety of reasons.

Hi Max,
I understand that each of us has difficulty to talk to the women. We believe to always have from our part to speak, to reason, to command. And we don't often succeed in understanding of what the women want and they pretend from us men of whatever age.
But for me, the easiest thing is to listen to their service of the women. You becomes more good men, sweets and honest toward the woman to always be respected.
The man is strong. And not wants to understand the woman.
Max, can say what you want on what you think of the cars. Also I can mistake my opinions. But we have to learn to answer to those that say the others. As for the note what they also say the women.
Generally speaking.

[mart]

Originally Posted by Max

I want to say that I respect everyone's opinion, I just have bad social skills, and this is one of the reasons that I also fear women so much, and if ever do I communicate with them. I'm sorry if everyone took this wrong, but I would prefer a McLaren F1 primarily becuase it seemed to be a better car in my opinion for a wide variety of reasons.

Max these are the important words lacking in your previous posts. It would be nice to know if it's your opinion or general. When i'm talking about something or someone i make it clear if it's my opinion or from what i've read.

[Max]

I was just trying to understand why everyone thinks that this is the "end all car" and that there is no car out there better than this. Different cars have different purposes, and I like the McLaren F1 more, because it weighs half as much, and has a fully manual gear box as well as a sleek aerodynamic design. It weighs half as much, and this is why I am saying that it is a better car.

[laranger]

Looks as if we are