First firing

mart · 03-13-2009, 09:24 PM

I've been a mill forman for around 4 years and today i fired my first worker. I was so angry with this lad that i believe he left me no choice. For a month this stacker has been turning up late for work with feeble excuses like the alarm doesn't always work or he had a headache, toothache or he was stuck in traffic which i know is a lie. Because i drive the same route and he just lives a couple miles further down. The best one was that he had to drive his partner to work so it was her fault that he was late according to him. He also had 13 days off without phoning in once to say why he couldn't come in and when he turned up the next day all he'd say was that he was ill. As usual he came in today 45 minutes late just saying he got up late. So that was it i told him to turn around and go, your fired. I just got angry the way he casually walked in as though nothing was wrong. I had already had words with him on several occasions and warning him that if his time keeping doesn't improve he's fired . I don't think he took me for my word. I can't have stackers casually turning up whenever they feel like it. I'd value any opinions as to whether i did the right thing. I believe i had no choice even though i never wished to have to fire anyone.

ugo · 03-13-2009, 09:31 PM

Good one Mart !
I think the most logical thing that the world of work must be done about cleaning workers indolent.

I imagine my anger against my work of people crazy !!!!!!!!

captnjack · 03-13-2009, 10:42 PM

Cut and dry Mart you had no choice. You gave him warning of the consequence yet he persisted in being late.

laranger · 03-13-2009, 11:50 PM

When you accept a job it comes with expectations and you need to do that. He didn't preform up to snuff so I don't see where you had any other means to get it done. Replace him with someone who wants to work, cause he sure didn't want to work.

I spent 30 years working at just 1 job. Not many people can say that anymore.

Good call on your part Mark, I would have done it sooner than you did tho.

Anoree · 03-14-2009, 12:09 AM

I myself get to work pretty late, violating our time supposed to be at work, but see to it that the work is done. I stay late in the evenings and come in on the weekends, if necessary. My boss never complained.
If I do come early (on time for others) I usually get home late, anyway.

I don't see you could have done something else. You warned him repeatedly, and still he didn't come on time.
He didn't leave you a chance of anything but to fire him. It’s his fault only.

eastbill · 03-14-2009, 12:47 AM

my working in human resources..i have had to do that myself. but as much as i dont like it, when they leave you no choice you have to do it for the betterment of the company and the morale of the other workers. tough to do a good job when someone next to you misses all the time and is late, yet gets paid as you do. i see you had no choice there, an unfortunate part of the job. in the same boat i suspended someone today, as a warning of whats to come.

615 · 03-15-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mart

He also had 13 days off without phoning in once to say why he couldn't come in...

13 days?! 13!? Where I'm at, on your second no call/no show you're on a final warning. Once you hit your third you're termed.

This guy was on the mother of all gravy trains. I don't reckon you've ever had a consultant visit your workplace?

Anyway, people get themselves termed by their own actions or lack thereof. Rest easy.

Texasdrake · 03-15-2009, 05:07 AM

Yeah getting away with 13 days of no phoning in.Don't think there is any company in the USA that would let that go.Unless you work in the family business can't see you getting away with it.My company for the most part would drop you like a hot potato within a few days of your no phoning in.

ugo · 03-15-2009, 09:38 AM

These things do not happen in my work. There is too much cunning. Here's because has my anger.
There's a lot of complacency to have arrogance and laziness.
If in my work it was more clean and perfect, I would be happy.
That's why I suffer of insults and wickedness.
Mart has done well. It must be strong to dismiss people arrogant and without real reasons why.

mart · 03-15-2009, 11:16 AM

We do operate the three warning rule but this one was down to me. As work has been slow this month i figured i'd give him time to buck his ideas up which was a waste of time. I know now i was too lenient of him and i have now learnt that was a mistake on my part. So in future it will be the three warning rule.

No we've never had any work consultant visiting the works 615

03-13-2009, 09:24 PM	#1
mart Danielle's Only True Love Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden of England, Kent Posts: 2,189	First firing I've been a mill forman for around 4 years and today i fired my first worker. I was so angry with this lad that i believe he left me no choice. For a month this stacker has been turning up late for work with feeble excuses like the alarm doesn't always work or he had a headache, toothache or he was stuck in traffic which i know is a lie. Because i drive the same route and he just lives a couple miles further down. The best one was that he had to drive his partner to work so it was her fault that he was late according to him. He also had 13 days off without phoning in once to say why he couldn't come in and when he turned up the next day all he'd say was that he was ill. As usual he came in today 45 minutes late just saying he got up late. So that was it i told him to turn around and go, your fired. I just got angry the way he casually walked in as though nothing was wrong. I had already had words with him on several occasions and warning him that if his time keeping doesn't improve he's fired . I don't think he took me for my word. I can't have stackers casually turning up whenever they feel like it. I'd value any opinions as to whether i did the right thing. I believe i had no choice even though i never wished to have to fire anyone. __________________ If You Don't Ask, You Don't Get

03-13-2009, 09:31 PM	#2
ugo Danielle's Future Ex-Husband Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,556	Good one Mart ! I think the most logical thing that the world of work must be done about cleaning workers indolent. I imagine my anger against my work of people crazy !!!!!!!! __________________ Hope,Love,sex : Loving a Girl.

03-13-2009, 10:42 PM	#3
captnjack Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Posts: 818	Cut and dry Mart you had no choice. You gave him warning of the consequence yet he persisted in being late. __________________ But in your dreams whatever they may be Dream a little dream of me

03-13-2009, 11:50 PM	#4
laranger Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 604	When you accept a job it comes with expectations and you need to do that. He didn't preform up to snuff so I don't see where you had any other means to get it done. Replace him with someone who wants to work, cause he sure didn't want to work. I spent 30 years working at just 1 job. Not many people can say that anymore. Good call on your part Mark, I would have done it sooner than you did tho. __________________ Mediocrity shouldn't be a life goal.

03-15-2009, 05:07 AM	#8
Texasdrake Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ft.Worth,Tx Posts: 399	Yeah getting away with 13 days of no phoning in.Don't think there is any company in the USA that would let that go.Unless you work in the family business can't see you getting away with it.My company for the most part would drop you like a hot potato within a few days of your no phoning in. __________________ I didn't do it!!! The dog did.

03-14-2009, 12:09 AM	#5
Anoree Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,015	I myself get to work pretty late, violating our time supposed to be at work, but see to it that the work is done. I stay late in the evenings and come in on the weekends, if necessary. My boss never complained. If I do come early (on time for others) I usually get home late, anyway. I don't see you could have done something else. You warned him repeatedly, and still he didn't come on time. He didn't leave you a chance of anything but to fire him. It’s his fault only.

03-14-2009, 12:47 AM	#6
eastbill Danielle's Biggest Fan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 283	my working in human resources..i have had to do that myself. but as much as i dont like it, when they leave you no choice you have to do it for the betterment of the company and the morale of the other workers. tough to do a good job when someone next to you misses all the time and is late, yet gets paid as you do. i see you had no choice there, an unfortunate part of the job. in the same boat i suspended someone today, as a warning of whats to come.

03-15-2009, 09:38 AM	#9
ugo Danielle's Future Ex-Husband Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,556	These things do not happen in my work. There is too much cunning. Here's because has my anger. There's a lot of complacency to have arrogance and laziness. If in my work it was more clean and perfect, I would be happy. That's why I suffer of insults and wickedness. Mart has done well. It must be strong to dismiss people arrogant and without real reasons why. __________________ Hope,Love,sex : Loving a Girl.

03-15-2009, 11:16 AM	#10
mart Danielle's Only True Love Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden of England, Kent Posts: 2,189	We do operate the three warning rule but this one was down to me. As work has been slow this month i figured i'd give him time to buck his ideas up which was a waste of time. I know now i was too lenient of him and i have now learnt that was a mistake on my part. So in future it will be the three warning rule. No we've never had any work consultant visiting the works 615 __________________ If You Don't Ask, You Don't Get