A Shame... Lia lost the AVN award

Natal · 01-20-2009, 09:39 PM

You can see pictures of said event here http://www.lastnightsparty.com/outra.../IMG_9240.html. They appear to have been taken mostly at the awards ceremony. Holy crap! There are some pretty scary looking women there!

Quite a few of them seem to have attended the Tammy Faye Bakker school of makeup application as well!

Our very own Layrsa and Faye seem to have been a hit with whoever was taking the photographs, they appear in a lot of them.

FTVLia19 · 01-20-2009, 10:52 PM

Thx guys! I was totally heart broken. I got up and walked out and then started crying followed by a few choice remarks lol. But all better now. Rob is right the main issue was I was a solo girl site without any b/g. So i guess no big deal I would rather have all of you then some stupid award anyways

captnjack · 01-21-2009, 08:41 AM

Given avn’s track record for bias toward b/g sites I think it’s quite an accomplishment to have been nominated. I had never heard of the other girl’s site before the award and I’m still not sure who she is. And don’t forget the interview with Playboy TV I don’t see anything about this other girl doing an interview with them. We know that you deserved the award and I suspect that AVN is having difficult reconciling your popularity without them recognizing you with an award!

Anoree · 01-21-2009, 01:16 PM

I hate to admit it, but this outcome was predictable, from what I read in the nomination thread.

Lia should have won the award in my eyes, too, but they gave it away to someone more "mainstream", I guess. I don't know that girl, nor have I a desire to look at her website. I rather stick with Lia and Danielle.

Lia's site, as well as Danielle's and Rob's, has an uniqueness that can't be copied easily and might frighten others in the adult buisiness.

I hope Lia wasn't as crestfallen as she wrote here, and had at least some fun anyway.

mart · 01-21-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FTVLia19

Thx guys! I was totally heart broken. I got up and walked out and then started crying followed by a few choice remarks lol. But all better now. Rob is right the main issue was I was a solo girl site without any b/g. So i guess no big deal I would rather have all of you then some stupid award anyways

That's why we all love you Lia!. Your more down to earth than some of these other webgirls.

Natal · 01-24-2009, 08:41 PM

Based on web traffic (as per Alexa) Kelly Madison's site generated the most activity of the last year and half, allthough it shows a steady decline over that period. Catalina Cruz is steady over that period and is about the same as Kelly's activity atm. Alison was up there with Catalina mostly, but her numbers have started to fall off over the last 6 months as well, probably because of her retirement. Lia's numbers are a bit lower than those girls, and also in steady decline. As far as I could tell, those were pretty much the only girls in contention when it comes to popularity of their sites. In a few months Catalina is probably going to hold the high ground in terms of numbers, and that is likely the reason she won.

I also had a look at the numbers of some of the other girls who have been on FTV who have websites of one form or another. Most of those barely register and you would have to think that they wouldn't be able to earn a living from those ventures. One that surprised me was Jana, I expected her site to be a bit more popular but it isn't really. Granted, it is fairly new and she has had two other single girl sites before, but I would have thought that someone with her energy would have generated more interest. Another surprise is Sandy Summers, her numbers are way up there, comparable to Alisons at the moment, and she has been reasonably consistent over the last year or so. It looks like things are going well for her.

Oh, and as far as Bree is concerned, I checked her website as well. It has been up for about a year, started out at around Catalina/Alison levels, and has been in consistent decline since. She is in the process of falling off the table, so I doubt she is going to be winning next years award either. In the new web starlet category (why isnt Sandy in this list?) the only others that had high traffic were Candy Monroe (hardcore crude stuff from the looks of her front page, poorly designed webspace too) and Selina18 (apparently very popular site, but she looks like a little girl, not a woman).

Geezer · 01-24-2009, 11:20 PM

Hey Natal,

That was very interesting but how/where did you arrive at those numbers? Is there a web site that publishes them?

And, that brings another question to my mind... Rob, are you able to tell exactly which FTV members viewed/downloaded each individual update? Are you provided statistics on who uses your sites and how often they are accessed?

This question should be posted in the FTV forum so that Rob will be more likely to answer it (Posted by Moderator)

FTVLia19 · 01-27-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Natal

Based on web traffic (as per Alexa) Kelly Madison's site generated the most activity of the last year and half, allthough it shows a steady decline over that period. Catalina Cruz is steady over that period and is about the same as Kelly's activity atm. Alison was up there with Catalina mostly, but her numbers have started to fall off over the last 6 months as well, probably because of her retirement. Lia's numbers are a bit lower than those girls, and also in steady decline. As far as I could tell, those were pretty much the only girls in contention when it comes to popularity of their sites. In a few months Catalina is probably going to hold the high ground in terms of numbers, and that is likely the reason she won.

I also had a look at the numbers of some of the other girls who have been on FTV who have websites of one form or another. Most of those barely register and you would have to think that they wouldn't be able to earn a living from those ventures. One that surprised me was Jana, I expected her site to be a bit more popular but it isn't really. Granted, it is fairly new and she has had two other single girl sites before, but I would have thought that someone with her energy would have generated more interest. Another surprise is Sandy Summers, her numbers are way up there, comparable to Alisons at the moment, and she has been reasonably consistent over the last year or so. It looks like things are going well for her.

Oh, and as far as Bree is concerned, I checked her website as well. It has been up for about a year, started out at around Catalina/Alison levels, and has been in consistent decline since. She is in the process of falling off the table, so I doubt she is going to be winning next years award either. In the new web starlet category (why isnt Sandy in this list?) the only others that had high traffic were Candy Monroe (hardcore crude stuff from the looks of her front page, poorly designed webspace too) and Selina18 (apparently very popular site, but she looks like a little girl, not a woman).

Yeah, but it was web starlett of the year not website of the year and being an FTVGirl solo site and a fleshlight contract star I would of thought that make my web popularity pretty big since both are such power house and some of those girls i have never even heard of

Natal · 01-28-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FTVLia19

Yeah, but it was web starlett of the year not website of the year and being an FTVGirl solo site and a fleshlight contract star I would of thought that make my web popularity pretty big since both are such power house and some of those girls i have never even heard of

Heh...I'm a scientist so I allways try to analyse things too much

. I think for the single girl sites they probably look at the site and the girl as one. IMO you and Alison were the hottest girls there by far, plus I think the graphic design elements of your sites are way better than the competition. But, you two don't have hard core content, which I guess is AVNs main focus, plus hardcore sites likely get more traffic than softcore sites in general. Alison wasn't going to win since she is gone. I don't know if they gave the rankings at the awards or not but I would have thought that you would have been way up there.

Anyway, you are still the winner to us!

MrSnook · 01-24-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FTVLia19

Thx guys! I was totally heart broken. I got up and walked out and then started crying followed by a few choice remarks lol. But all better now. Rob is right the main issue was I was a solo girl site without any b/g. So i guess no big deal I would rather have all of you then some stupid award anyways

Cary Grant, Peter O'Toole, Barbara Stanwyck, Glenn Close, Greta Garbo, Richard Burton, Johnny Depp, Peter Sellers, Alfred Hitccock-All time greats who never won an Oscar. The Beatles never won a Grammy while they were together.

True greatness is rarely recognized in it's time.

Natal · 01-25-2009, 05:27 AM

There is a web intelligence company called alexa.com, which gathers information using a toolbar (they claim to have millions out in cyberspace) installed on users computers. If you go to their site you can enter any address and get an idea of how much traffic that site gets. It isnt accurate in the sense that it doesnt capture traffic on computers without their toolbar (so there may be skewing between topics), but it does give you an order of magnitude estimate of how popular a site is.

captnjack · 01-25-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Natal

There is a web intelligence company called alexa.com, which gathers information using a toolbar (they claim to have millions out in cyberspace) installed on users computers. If you go to their site you can enter any address and get an idea of how much traffic that site gets. It isnt accurate in the sense that it doesnt capture traffic on computers without their toolbar (so there may be skewing between topics), but it does give you an order of magnitude estimate of how popular a site is.

I will have to disagree with your conclusion that this company’s results represent a site’s popularity. In order for a sample to represent the trend of its population the sample has to be randomly drawn. To say that there may be some skewing of the result is an understatement it is a given since this company’s data is bias (limited) to only users with this special toolbar. To extrapolate any trend this company has gathered onto the population as whole is statistically unsound. I will also speculate that all you are going to get from this site is some affiliates’ tracking cookie.

Natal · 01-25-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by captnjack

I will have to disagree with your conclusion that this company’s results represent a site’s popularity. In order for a sample to represent the trend of its population the sample has to be randomly drawn. To say that there may be some skewing of the result is an understatement it is a given since this company’s data is bias (limited) to only users with this special toolbar. To extrapolate any trend this company has gathered onto the population as whole is statistically unsound. I will also speculate that all you are going to get from this site is some affiliates’ tracking cookie.

Ya, I realize that, which is why I said it is skewed, especially when it comes to topics. Within a topic however (in this case porn sites in general), you could expect people with the toolbar installed to visit a variety of sites in that genre and it would reflect what they are doing over time. It wont give you absolute numbers (like actual subscriptions or anything like that) but it will give you an order of magnitude of general interest and how that is evolving over time.

01-20-2009, 10:52 PM	#2
FTVLia19 In Love with Danielle Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 141	Thx guys! I was totally heart broken. I got up and walked out and then started crying followed by a few choice remarks lol. But all better now. Rob is right the main issue was I was a solo girl site without any b/g. So i guess no big deal I would rather have all of you then some stupid award anyways __________________ *www.Lia19.com ~ www.myspace.com/netlia~www.twitter.com/netlia*

01-21-2009, 08:41 AM	#3
captnjack Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Posts: 818	Given avn’s track record for bias toward b/g sites I think it’s quite an accomplishment to have been nominated. I had never heard of the other girl’s site before the award and I’m still not sure who she is. And don’t forget the interview with Playboy TV I don’t see anything about this other girl doing an interview with them. We know that you deserved the award and I suspect that AVN is having difficult reconciling your popularity without them recognizing you with an award! __________________ But in your dreams whatever they may be Dream a little dream of me

01-24-2009, 08:41 PM	#6
Natal Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 667	Based on web traffic (as per Alexa) Kelly Madison's site generated the most activity of the last year and half, allthough it shows a steady decline over that period. Catalina Cruz is steady over that period and is about the same as Kelly's activity atm. Alison was up there with Catalina mostly, but her numbers have started to fall off over the last 6 months as well, probably because of her retirement. Lia's numbers are a bit lower than those girls, and also in steady decline. As far as I could tell, those were pretty much the only girls in contention when it comes to popularity of their sites. In a few months Catalina is probably going to hold the high ground in terms of numbers, and that is likely the reason she won. I also had a look at the numbers of some of the other girls who have been on FTV who have websites of one form or another. Most of those barely register and you would have to think that they wouldn't be able to earn a living from those ventures. One that surprised me was Jana, I expected her site to be a bit more popular but it isn't really. Granted, it is fairly new and she has had two other single girl sites before, but I would have thought that someone with her energy would have generated more interest. Another surprise is Sandy Summers, her numbers are way up there, comparable to Alisons at the moment, and she has been reasonably consistent over the last year or so. It looks like things are going well for her. Oh, and as far as Bree is concerned, I checked her website as well. It has been up for about a year, started out at around Catalina/Alison levels, and has been in consistent decline since. She is in the process of falling off the table, so I doubt she is going to be winning next years award either. In the new web starlet category (why isnt Sandy in this list?) the only others that had high traffic were Candy Monroe (hardcore crude stuff from the looks of her front page, poorly designed webspace too) and Selina18 (apparently very popular site, but she looks like a little girl, not a woman). Last edited by Natal; 01-24-2009 at 10:41 PM.

01-24-2009, 11:20 PM	#7
Geezer Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 895	Hey Natal, That was very interesting but how/where did you arrive at those numbers? Is there a web site that publishes them? And, that brings another question to my mind... Rob, are you able to tell exactly which FTV members viewed/downloaded each individual update? Are you provided statistics on who uses your sites and how often they are accessed? This question should be posted in the FTV forum so that Rob will be more likely to answer it (Posted by Moderator) Last edited by Geezer; 01-24-2009 at 11:22 PM.

01-20-2009, 09:39 PM	#1
Natal Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 667	You can see pictures of said event here http://www.lastnightsparty.com/outra.../IMG_9240.html. They appear to have been taken mostly at the awards ceremony. Holy crap! There are some pretty scary looking women there! Quite a few of them seem to have attended the Tammy Faye Bakker school of makeup application as well! Our very own Layrsa and Faye seem to have been a hit with whoever was taking the photographs, they appear in a lot of them.

01-21-2009, 01:16 PM	#4
Anoree Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,015	I hate to admit it, but this outcome was predictable, from what I read in the nomination thread. Lia should have won the award in my eyes, too, but they gave it away to someone more "mainstream", I guess. I don't know that girl, nor have I a desire to look at her website. I rather stick with Lia and Danielle. Lia's site, as well as Danielle's and Rob's, has an uniqueness that can't be copied easily and might frighten others in the adult buisiness. I hope Lia wasn't as crestfallen as she wrote here, and had at least some fun anyway.

01-25-2009, 05:27 AM	#11
Natal Danielle's Imaginary Boyfriend Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 667	There is a web intelligence company called alexa.com, which gathers information using a toolbar (they claim to have millions out in cyberspace) installed on users computers. If you go to their site you can enter any address and get an idea of how much traffic that site gets. It isnt accurate in the sense that it doesnt capture traffic on computers without their toolbar (so there may be skewing between topics), but it does give you an order of magnitude estimate of how popular a site is.